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Kent Steffes the beach volleybay player writing about himself

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Kent Steffes[edit]

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User says they are the subject of the article here. Says they have been editing the article for "decades" and that their friends sometimes make joke edits to the page. Tacyarg (talk) 19:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was a Professional Beach Volleyball player in the 1990's. The sport is very niche and has few followers. Since at least 2008 I have made the majority of the major edits to the page which is about me. I understand the COI and believe I am operating within its guidelines. My previous username was Elstuf and I made edits under that username. I do not remember why or when I changed usernames but now it is Kentsteffes which is the same as the Wikipedia page. Anyone can see that the edits I make are from my username. Because the sport is so niche, I believe that I add value to the page by providing updates for example I was recently (2020) inducted into the USA Volleyball Hall of Fame as the All-Time Great Male Beach Volleyball Player and have provided a source from USA Volleyball. USA Volleyball is a very legitimate source as they are the Sport's National Governing Body operating under the auspices of the United States Olympic Committee. Other sources I have provided are from one of the premier online Beach Volleyball coaching resources in the sport as well as Sandcast the sport's most popular podcast which is affiliated with volleyballmag.com the sport largest US online magazine that covers the sport of beach volleyball. Another update I provided for the page is that I have recently published a book on the history of the sport with co-author Travis Mewhirter a noted sport's writer, journalist and professional beach volleyball player. I believe these and my other edits add value. Any possible editor of this page would need to not only be current in the sport of beach volleyball but up to date on its history as well. It is true that my friends occasionally add "joke" to this page but usually subsequently remove them. I have no control over these "joke" edits. Kentsteffes (talk) 20:22, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What possible benefit is there to a reader by repeatedly inputting the names and birth details of your children?--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 01:52, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

None, except if they're actually notable, which they probably aren't. Closest thing I got to a softball player whose name I will not say, in a Google search reveals no Wikipedia Reference result relating to the softball player herself. One of the first results on the second page is the Kent Steffes Wikipedia article. As for Kent, he is notable to an extent. DizzyTheMan (talk) 02:58, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, my comment broke and published itself. Lol. DizzyTheMan (talk) 02:59, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The names and ages of the children have been on the Wikipedia page for years. Why were they removed only recently? Was there a change in policy? If people believe there is no benefit to the readers than I am fine with removing all mention of them although my daughter is a notable softball player at her High School and in our community but maybe not notable enough as I am not sure what is the standard. Kentsteffes (talk) 04:00, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There has been no change AFAIK - it's just that some things jump out to some unconnected editors, whereas others will let it slide. You have reverted a deletion to promote your children - one editor cited WP:BLPNAME in the edit summary, and requested you to not do it again, so it was deliberate. Putting it another way, often, well-meaning members of the public rush-in to take newspaper article content (or more recently 'new' media online) to swell the Wikipedia content. We had one young lady (14 years old) putting herself into her dad's article (a TV presenter) with social media content including contact details at her user page that had to be removed (no trace remaining) by an administrator. Another recent episode was a professional media person "It’s now my main responsibility to manage the *** C****** Group’s social media accounts..., instagram, facebook, twitter, tiktok, linkedin" (from Linked In) trying to make changes to the Wikipedia article; that's the sort of thing regular editors have to watch for. Letting it slide can encourage others into thinking Wikipedia is another form of social media.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 11:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the child's name again. DizzyTheMan (talk) 12:02, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For those of you who are following this thread, he's now editing again on his page. DizzyTheMan (talk) 13:56, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Rocknrollmancer: Just curious; what are the cases you are referring to? 49.144.200.165 (talk) 12:28, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have avoided details for good privacy reasons, but here is an example of a Single-purpose account adding details to a WP:BLP that should not be in an encyclopedia.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 12:42, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Account is blocked now due to WP:IMPERSONATE concerns. If this person truly is who he claims to be, he can provide verification and be unblocked. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:01, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Make a table with dates and topics of all the tweets in the text

Date | Topic -----|------ 19:54, 6 October 2022 | User says they are the subject of the article here. Says they have been editing the article for "decades" and that their friends sometimes make joke edits to the page. 20:22, 6 October 2022 | Kent Steffes provides updates on their career, including recent induction into the USA Volleyball Hall of Fame and publication of a book on the history of the sport of beach volleyball. 02:58, 7 October 2022 | DizzyTheMan notes that Kent Steffes is notable to an extent. 04:00, 7 October 2022 | Kent Steffes responds to removal of children's names from the article, saying that they are notable softball players in their community. 11:29, 7 October 2022 | Rocknrollmancer explains that some unconnected editors take issue with certain content, and that letting it slide can encourage others into thinking Wikipedia is another form of social media. 12:02, 7 October 2022 | DizzyTheMan removes the child's name again. 13:56, 7 October 2022 | DizzyTheMan notes that Kent Steffes is editing the article again. 19:01, 7 October 2022 | Drm310 🍁 blocks the account due to WP:IMPERSONATE concerns.

Make a table with dates and authors of all the posts in the text:

Date Author October 6 Kent Steffes October 7 DizzyTheMan October 7 Rocknrollmancer October 7 49.144.200.165 October 7 Drm310

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Kent Steffes is a former professional beach volleyball player who has been editing the Wikipedia page about himself for years. He recently provided updates about his induction into the USA Volleyball Hall of Fame and his new book. His friends have occasionally made joke edits to the page, but he has no control over these.

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The user says they are the subject of the article and have been editing it for decades. They say their friends sometimes make joke edits to the page.

They add that they understand the COI and believe they are operating within its guidelines. The user provides updates on their recent induction into the USA Volleyball Hall of Fame and their book publication. They finish by saying that if people believe there is no benefit to readers by including the names and birth details of their children, they are fine with removing them.

Summarize all the posts in the text in cockney slang

Some bloke wot's written a book about volleyball what no one plays is trying to get his mates to edit his Wikipedia page so it looks more important. People keep taking the piss, adding jokes and stuff. Even his kids are getting involved now.